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I called everybody and a job but I didn't look for a job. what everybody was doing. was one company that made an offer and I told them this incredibly crazy number basically to make them away. later I was moving to Hong Kong and >> That was two years in Hong Kong and but I saved it all. actually could buy this place. design company, here in New York, gonna do by the time I was 30. all you know, when I see these people, there was no set plan to it. anxious about my future. are you guys anxious about your future? person, so I always have to have something anything like a direct path, I don't know, exam at the end of high school. entire last year of high school. that exam to be over. fantastic when that exam is over. was over it was such a letdown, >> Is there just you would like, kind of give us, kind of unknown territory. You know what, but this is the New York version of it. will be better in the future is stupid, young designers who say, but my parents said, so I started graphic design instead. a mistake because if you don't have gonna be a great graphic designer. out what you have passion at and try out as much as you can. go out and see it really. I think that's a great, great, great idea. you really wanna be.. of just taking the time to go outside and focused on goals, I guess, but opportunities and having that effect you. goals replace living for now. still, enjoy every moment. working toward something too. accomplishing things, and but we're also enjoying New York, really crazy cool things around here. >> Have lots of fun. the city of opportunity, the. their opportunities are opening. that's my subway. smells in Wisconsin. Madhouse Productions Theater Company. rapidly expanding. all of our stuff started. >> Is this cool? >> Yeah, this is wonderful. meet the Middletown dream team. in Connecticut. I met, and done any comedy writing. >> And Anthony said, newspaper which comes out twice a week. I started writing this thing and an issue the night before for and became very good friends. >> Awful. get fired in writing a comics. been around for like 200 years, so >> And then the printing press >> So we got fired from that and >> Yes, double major in film and history. interesting stuff. with a Degree in American History, so which was a class in script analysis. dry theater majors or something like that. student run theater department. >> And you can basically get a group of they'll say all right, here's this room, here's 50 bucks a couple of your show ups. come work on a show, and guys John Mailer and Neil Stewart. that we ended up starting our theater we didn't know any better. hire you, so make your own company. what's the worst thing that happens? with my parents. one year out of school. which came out to about $84. I ate [LAUGH] in rotation tomato soup and tuna fish every day for a year. all the things I wanted to read and I was making absolutely no money. after you graduated, did you like make it? something right after you get out of the first couple of years. I moved to New York and I was in Brooklyn. I was on the 11th floor and I had and that's all I had in the apartment was I had like $200 in my checking account. I was literally looking out the window and >> There's no way, I'm gonna make it. you're not going to fail, it gonna be hard for? I think that's probably when. >> No. >> [LAUGH] >> So I think that the three of us in are trying to really hone in and with us like that on that level. >> You're lucky he found it. confirmation that you're on the right path you're constantly assessing. >> The folks that have been doing whatever you meet them and they're in their 60s or you see this spark that goes on, they lean forward and gives them vitality. disappears you're in the right place. the things inside of you that you feel is going right. getting away with something. going into an office is playing. designing a 50 story building is playing. resonance inside of you. called Freestyle Love Supreme. why are we doing that kind of a thing. I'm in the best place when I'm doing it. you are your own answer. watch rehearsal for a second? >> I think whatever it is that you decide you're interested in, you need about whether it's a path or continuing to travel on. distinguish if something is for you, gonna be scary but jump off the cliff and opportunities to fork a new path, let's turn left. you're probably gonna hear that a lot. were gonna hear a lot because it's true. the only person to make it, why not? Boston Bruins hockey. wanted to go in the United States, much history there, and to be where you are right now? >> Really? >> No. you're covering stuff, doing features here and there. gonna be covering the most beloved team in and hanging out at this park every day, fantastic surprise every single day. Northeastern University here in Boston and gonna be able to go back because of off from school and was working. I was shagging carriages for two years. were not being utilized. there and it wasn't getting expended. 21 I had just gotten back into school. and I had at that point, newspaper up there, and was starting to of Boston covering sports and all that. laying down the groundwork for was a couple years there where all of my I knew were almost done with school or I was just sort of getting started. the newspapers and then all of that? I wanna write from a pretty young age. I actually went through a period, then I actually left sports definitely what I wanted to do and to see how much I would miss it. a little while and there every weekend. making coffee and doing all that stuff. a year and a half, that I totally missed missed everything that I'd been building back to it after about a year and a half. lesson that I've learned in my life. much I would miss it. it more than anything and wanted to do for the rest of my life. I guess? presented to me and running with them and granted or casting them aside. just doing stuff for people or is there, because you want to do it. you're not interested at all in in order something that you're interested in? because I'm on the other end of it and on who you talked to. you know, that you're not really interested in or you're really not into, maybe like something that you've never experienced, if you do it and you have to keep in the back of that is that that's not the end game, the rest of your life. it's not the end itself. many people just coming out of college, they want it right away. now that are like that, and waiting to get to a certain point. rather than being able to wait for it. getting the experience, working up to that point. go through that hard time. hard to grasp cuz you're like, of it right now, why should I continue it? he saw where it could take him. me like five or six years to get there, on a regular basis that are like, stick with it for a little while. doing now, I'd be be completely happy. I can give to anybody. followed, and I hope you guys do the same. >> Awesome man guys, cuz they're around all these you think that they'd be like. all around the park, gave up what was it? show on TV, he wasn't rushed at all. >> You >> Very nice. that I was gonna see Niagara Falls. family vacations into one trip. of what career I wanted to do, but like, but in a healthier way. nothing to worry about. different opportunities and if I take advantage of them. you know? all this inspiration and start getting after those opportunities. all around the globe and visit www.pbs.org. don't die with your music still in you. I didn't want to just go get a job. and crazy things to happen to you, a position where it's possible. about too many plans. worry about now. 

<p>The Roadtrip Nation team spends time in New York, interviewing graphic designer Stefan Sagmeister. Then they head across town to meet with Thomas Kale and Anthony Veneziale of theatre company Backhouse Productions and get to freestyle rap. In Boston, sportswriter Joe Haggerty reminds the team that paying your dues plays a big role in getting to do what you love.</p>

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Was it like your ultimate goal was to be where you are right now? this was at all possible. >> When I graduated from college, no way. >> No, you're writing. doing features here and there. gonna be covering the most beloved team in and hanging out at this park every day. fantastic surprise every single day. Northeastern University here in Boston. because of kind of financial hardship. was working. and kinda not being utilized. creative energy was there, and I had just gotten back into school. third year in and at that point, in the newspaper up there. newspaper in the suburbs of Boston, laying down the groundwork for where all of my friends were in school and almost done with school or I was just sort of getting started. in newspapers and all of that? realized that I wanted to write I did sports for a while and definitely was what I wanted to do, and to see how much I would miss it. a little while, and there every weekend, and doing all that stuff. year and a half, totally missed sports, of been building up towards that point. after about a year and a half. lesson that I learned in my life while to see how much I would miss it. it more than anything and to do for the rest of my life. I guess? are presented to me and running with them. granted or casting them aside, just doing stuff for people or is there, because you wanna do it. you're playing the game, you're not interested in at all, about something that you're interested in? because I'm on the other end of it, and depend on who you talked to. teams you're really not interested in. that you're really not into, you've never experienced, somewhere if you do it and keep in the back of your mind when your the end game is covering this for out of college like yourselves and now that are like that and waiting to get to a certain point. than being able to wait for it. is getting the experience and working up to that point. go through that hard time. hard to grasp because you are like well, it right now why should I continue it? saw where it could take him. it took me five or six years to get there. a regular basis, they're like, well, a little while. doing now, I would be completely happy. I could give to anybody. of advice that I followed. the wise, the wizened old sage Yoda 

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What about playing the game and stuff you're not interested in at all in about something you're interested in? because I'm on the other end of it and on who you talked to. that you're really not interested in. that you're really not into. you've never experienced. you do a good enough job with it. you have to keep in the back of your mind is that's not the end game, the rest of your life. out of college like yourselves and know who are like that, waiting to get to a certain point. rather than being able to wait for it. is getting the experience and and working up to that point. 

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So what was your guiding force, I guess? presented to me and running with them and granted or casting them aside. just doing stuff for people or is there because you want to do it. 

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I at a certain point now but it took me five or six years to get there, and I know that are like, well, why can't I be there? stick with it for a little while. I'm doing now, I'd be completely happy. 

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I actually started at uh, Northeastern University, And uh, I went wasn't gonna be able to go back hardship, and took two years and was working. realized that I wanted to I had always enjoyed writing. then I actually left sports definitely was what I wanted wanted to test myself. at a supermarket, carriages for like two years. at a bookstore all the bands that played-- would have live music there worked in the café making coffee And ah, I realized at the end a year and a half, totally missed sports. of the most valuable lessons was just going away from it how much I would miss it. 

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